ITALKSPORTS Episode 38: OKC Thunder win NBA Championship. KD Houston trade. UFC: Jon Jones’ Retirement!
The Oklahoma City Thunder have achieved a momentous victory, triumphing in a thrilling seven-game series to secure the title of 2025 NBA Champions. This episode delves into the pivotal moments from the Finals, highlighting the brilliant coaching strategies employed by both contenders and the extraordinary performance of Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, who emerged as the Finals MVP after a historic season. Additionally, we examine the implications of Tyrese Haliburton's unfortunate injury, which altered the course of the series, and discuss the ramifications of Kevin Durant's recent trade to the Houston Rockets, a move that promises to reshape the competitive landscape of the Western Conference. Transitioning to the realm of mixed martial arts, we reflect on Khalil Rountree Jr.'s significant victory over former champion Jamahal Hill, while also grappling with the bittersweet news of Jon Jones' retirement, a decision that raises questions about his legacy and the future of the heavyweight division.
Takeaways:
- The Oklahoma City Thunder have triumphed in a thrilling seven-game series to secure the 2025 NBA Championship, showcasing their depth and resilience.
- Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's historic MVP-winning season, alongside Tyrese Haliburton's unfortunate injury, significantly impacted the Finals' dynamics.
- Kevin Durant's trade to the Houston Rockets represents a substantial shift in the Western Conference landscape, raising questions about the Rockets' championship aspirations.
- Khalil Rountree Jr.'s victory over Jamahal Hill marks a significant achievement in his career, highlighting his potential in the UFC.
- Jon Jones' retirement, while a poignant moment, leaves fans yearning for a climactic showdown with Tom Aspinall, the new heavyweight champion.
- The future remains bright for the Oklahoma City Thunder, bolstered by their young talent and an abundance of draft picks, suggesting sustained success ahead.
Transcript
Now Kevin Durant.
Speaker A:Timothy John McConnell Jr.
Speaker A:Timothy John McConnell Jr.
Speaker A:He said it himself, I will retire Jon Jones without even fighting him.
Speaker A:And he did just that.
Speaker A:Jalen Green was untouchable until he dropped 8 points.
Speaker A:8.7, 8 points, 30 points.
Speaker A:8 points in the playoffs.
Speaker A:The future is still so bright in OKC because one, they still so young.
Speaker A:Two, they still have every pick in the.
Speaker A:In the NBA.
Speaker A:Which by the way, once again, where's your pride, bro?
Speaker A:We know you have a no trade policy, but like, we know you have a no trade clause, but like, you know they're actively trying to get rid of you.
Speaker B:So now, Mr.
Speaker B:Shay Gilgis Alexander, he's Mr.
Speaker B:Okc.
Speaker B:Mr.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's Mr.
Speaker B:OK.
Speaker B:Finishing.
Speaker B:Oh, not even into pay.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:Triple doubles are not enough.
Speaker B:Cup.
Speaker B:World Cup.
Speaker B:We lost 31 to Flamego.
Speaker B:Who's Flamego?
Speaker B:I'm glad you asked.
Speaker B:Team from Brazil.
Speaker B:Imagine that.
Speaker A:Ronaldinho's cousin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes, yes.
Speaker A:Ronaldinho's cousin.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah, we lost 3:1 and badly, I.
Speaker A:Might add a bad 3:1.
Speaker B:It was a bad.
Speaker A:I don't know if There's a good 3:1, but there is a.
Speaker B:There is a good 3:1.
Speaker B:Good 3:1 is that you had more chances than they did, but they took their chance.
Speaker A:Like 15.
Speaker A:Like 15 shots on target or something.
Speaker B:15 shots on target and you score one.
Speaker B:And they had three shots on target and just happened to go in.
Speaker A:That's maybe with a penalty in between.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker B:We got our plate.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:We got our ass kicked.
Speaker B:Chelsea Conference League finalist.
Speaker B:Imagine.
Speaker B:Anyway, but I'm good.
Speaker B:I'm fantastic.
Speaker A:He's good.
Speaker A:He's fantastic.
Speaker A:How are you, my G?
Speaker A:I'm not.
Speaker A:You see, I'm not wasting time because I want you to tell me, how are you?
Speaker A:I'm Kundi.
Speaker A:I'm fine.
Speaker A:I'm well.
Speaker A:OKC has done it.
Speaker A:As I said, OKC in six, but they did it in seven.
Speaker A:Now let's the thunderbolt right here.
Speaker A:And I wrote a big ass OKC that you probably can't even see, but hey, OKC has done it.
Speaker A:Shout out Shake Gilgeous Alexander, Finals mvp.
Speaker A:Shout out Tyrese Halliburton.
Speaker A:I hope he recovers and makes a speedy recovery because he is good for basketball.
Speaker A:However, we ain't talking about him right now.
Speaker A:We talking about the reigning defending league mvp.
Speaker A:The reigning, defending finals mvp.
Speaker A:The reigning defending Western Conference pick.
Speaker A:Finals mvp.
Speaker A:S G A historic season.
Speaker A:Historic season.
Speaker A:Did I mention that he's also the scoring champion?
Speaker A:He joins Very elite company.
Speaker A:He's got a scoring championship, conference finals mvp, which participation trophy.
Speaker A:But fine, he's got a scoring championship, he's got a finals MVP and the regular season mvp.
Speaker A:The first MVP to do so in nine years since Steph Curry.
Speaker A:Oh, my God, bro.
Speaker A:I said this championship is going to the West.
Speaker A:And by the time the second round came came through, I was like, this is going to okc.
Speaker A:Because I told you nobody else could have done.
Speaker A:Could have done it.
Speaker A:None of the teams left in the in the west could beat okc.
Speaker A:None of the teams left in the east could beat okc.
Speaker A:Indiana.
Speaker A:Pow.
Speaker A:Pow.
Speaker A:You did a good job.
Speaker A:They did a good job.
Speaker A:They did as good a job as any team could have.
Speaker A:Only one of only two teams to take the OKC Thunder to game seven.
Speaker A:These playoff.
Speaker A:Only other team being Nikola Jokic, who being the Nuggets and Nikola Jokic, who did that without a coach.
Speaker B:Don't do that.
Speaker A:He did that without a coach.
Speaker A:He did.
Speaker B:Don't know that he did.
Speaker B:Did you win?
Speaker A:He took them.
Speaker A:He took this devil team.
Speaker A:7 games with no coach.
Speaker A:But speaking of coaches, techno.
Speaker A:Okay, what can we say, man?
Speaker A:What can we say about Mark Degnault?
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:We commend you.
Speaker A:You're a great coach.
Speaker A:But he wasn't the best coach in the series.
Speaker A:No, he wasn't.
Speaker A:Rick Carlisle, that's a championship coach right there.
Speaker A:Well, they both are now.
Speaker A:But Rick Carlisle showed why.
Speaker A:He's the.
Speaker A:He was the coach on the hardest ring ever won.
Speaker A:Ain't that right, N.J.
Speaker A:that's right.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker B:2011 Duck Divis.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:He showed you why.
Speaker A:He showed you why.
Speaker A:Now on to the actual game.
Speaker A:First half.
Speaker A:OKC had a bad first half.
Speaker A:Bad first half.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You look at this box score, you're like, how.
Speaker A:But they were neck and neck the whole half.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Tyrese Halliburton went down in the first.
Speaker A:They should have, boom, gone off to the races after that.
Speaker A:They should have put their foot on their necks after Halliburton went down.
Speaker A:Especially considering the fact that the team is emotional.
Speaker A:We just lost our boy.
Speaker A:He's hurt.
Speaker A:He was crying, wailing on the floor.
Speaker A:Don't you think it's time to say if he dies, he dies and just go at it.
Speaker A:And just go at it.
Speaker A:Go for the jugular.
Speaker A:Anyway, they still got the job done because the second half, they actually pulled up.
Speaker A:The first half was trash, man.
Speaker A:They went like two or three of nine from the.
Speaker A:From the three point line.
Speaker A:Just bad.
Speaker A:Which Was bad.
Speaker A:Lou Dot was the only one making threes in the first half.
Speaker A:Lou Dot, Lou Dort.
Speaker A:I remember.
Speaker A:I remember there was a time when teams would literally leave Lou Dort open.
Speaker A:Teams still leave Lou Dot open.
Speaker A:And he was making shots.
Speaker A:He was doing it.
Speaker A:Sga was SGA here.
Speaker A:He played well the whole game.
Speaker A:He played well the whole game.
Speaker A:J Dub pulled up.
Speaker A:I think he had a quiet 20.
Speaker A:Let me see.
Speaker A:Yeah, he had a quiet 20, 24 and 4, SGA, 29, 12 and 5.
Speaker A:Chad played well, 18, 8 and 0 assists.
Speaker A:But 18 and 8 is all we need from Chet.
Speaker A:And I'm so happy.
Speaker A:I'm so happy.
Speaker A:I'm so.
Speaker A:I'm glad Chet won a ring before Wemby because now his legacy for.
Speaker A:For lack of a better term is secure because he's going up against a different beast with Wimby, Bruh.
Speaker A:Like Wimby might.
Speaker A:Might have multiple rings.
Speaker A:When it's all said and done, I'm glad Chet has one now as well.
Speaker A:Hopefully he also has multiple by the time it's all said and done.
Speaker A:But I'm glad he has one now because he.
Speaker A:It would have always been when we got a ring and you don't.
Speaker A:So shout out to Chet for that.
Speaker A:Shout out to the OKC Thunder.
Speaker A:But, but, but, but there's a, there's a, there's a young man on the OKC Thunder, not OKC Thunder on the Indiana paces.
Speaker A:I want to say his full name because I just know his initials.
Speaker A:Timothy John McConnell Jr.
Speaker A:Timothy John McConnell Jr.
Speaker A:TJ McConnell.
Speaker A:Well, yeah, he did that.
Speaker A:He did that.
Speaker A:TJ McConnell had a 16 point game and you just think, ah, so what?
Speaker A:But TJ McConnell is.
Speaker A:Was for me, I was just watching him and like, he couldn't miss, Bruh.
Speaker A:How many shots did he take and how many did he make?
Speaker A:Actually, let us see, because I'm telling you, he was 8 of 13.
Speaker A:Dropping 16 on 8 of 13, though.
Speaker A:It's a good game.
Speaker A:And it was the nature of the shots he was making, Bruh.
Speaker A:It was the timing of the shots he was making.
Speaker A:He realized that our boy is down.
Speaker A:And I have to come on.
Speaker A:Matheran played well.
Speaker A:Siakam played well.
Speaker A:It was a decent game.
Speaker A:Even Andrew Nemhardt played well.
Speaker A:Ish.
Speaker A:Ish.
Speaker A:But that's it.
Speaker A:Nobody else.
Speaker A:Everybody else had 369-00-200.
Speaker A:No, Halliburton was playing well.
Speaker A:He was three or five from three at that point.
Speaker A:He had nine points.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker A:He seemed to be going on a good trajectory and Then it looked bad, man.
Speaker A:It looked bad.
Speaker A:And this is why, once again, if you're hurt, don't play.
Speaker A:Kendrick Perkins said it, and he said, don't let this dude play.
Speaker A:If it's a calf strain, don't let him play.
Speaker A:Remember what happened to KD?
Speaker A:He said that.
Speaker A:These are KP.
Speaker A:These are KP's words.
Speaker A:These are Perk's words.
Speaker A:And they were like, no.
Speaker A:And then Tyrese was like, nah.
Speaker A:And fair enough.
Speaker A:It's the NBA Finals, right?
Speaker A:You don't want to leave anything to chance.
Speaker A:If there's.
Speaker A:If there is even a 5% chance, chance that you can contribute to the game.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker A:But at what cost?
Speaker A:What could have been a simple injury that needed rehab over the summer is now going to take him out for the rest of the season next year.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker A:Because as far as I know, it is an Achilles now.
Speaker A:It has become an Achilles.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:Oh, man.
Speaker A:He went down.
Speaker A:Have they given us an injury report yet?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:He will travel to New York City on Monday to begin surgery on his torn Achilles.
Speaker A:On his torn Achilles.
Speaker A: It's: Speaker A:Kevin Durant all over again.
Speaker A:We're gonna get to him, but it's Kevin Durant all over again.
Speaker A:He was hurt.
Speaker A:And I sat here last week on this very chair, into this very microphone, looking into this very camera, and I said, if you are hurt, don't play.
Speaker A:Because if you play, we're gonna expect the best from you.
Speaker A:And you can't produce your best, but also, you are doing more harm than good, most likely.
Speaker A:Look now.
Speaker A:200 kilies.
Speaker A:It's chai.
Speaker A:His next season.
Speaker A:He's gone.
Speaker A:He's gone.
Speaker A:Let's not even expect him next season.
Speaker A:What now?
Speaker A:What now?
Speaker A:If you are hurt, don't play.
Speaker A:It's that simple.
Speaker A:Shout out to Indiana.
Speaker A:Y' all held.
Speaker A:Y' all held your own in the first half.
Speaker A:Y' all held your own in the first half.
Speaker A:Hell, even in the fourth quarter.
Speaker A:Even in the fourth quarter.
Speaker A:They were down 20 at some point.
Speaker A:They were down 20 at some Point.
Speaker A:And the game ended 103.91.
Speaker A:They were down 20 at some pointed in the fourth quarter without Tyrese Halliburton.
Speaker A:And the game ended with a 8 point difference.
Speaker A:Think about that for a minute.
Speaker A:Just goes to show you, Rick Carlisle, you are the coach.
Speaker A:You are because of what you do when you coach Indiana.
Speaker A:I don't know the power of friendship and positivity.
Speaker A:I don't know what's up with that team, but they do good okc.
Speaker A:I expect to see them just get better from here.
Speaker A:Because the thing is, yo, they still have so many picks, bruh.
Speaker A:The future is still so bright in OKC because one, they still so young.
Speaker A:Two, they still have every pick in the, in the NBA, like a lot.
Speaker A: For at least up until: Speaker A:First round picks, I might add.
Speaker A:Oh, this, oh, this team is gonna be a problem.
Speaker A:This team is gonna be a problem.
Speaker A:If you think the, if you think this is.
Speaker A:If you think this is it, this is just the beginning.
Speaker A:Sam Presti is gonna cook.
Speaker A:Shout out.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Finally.
Speaker A:Finale.
Speaker A:Finally.
Speaker A:I mean, since you're, you're this close with, with Russ, KD and Harden.
Speaker A:This close.
Speaker A:But we can now consider Sam Presti as one of the best GMs of his generation.
Speaker A:He already was, but now he has a ring to back it.
Speaker A:He's orchestrated some great teams, right?
Speaker A:Russ, KD and Harden.
Speaker A:And then they went on to lose in the first round for the next seven years straight.
Speaker A:Which, by the way, Russell Westbrook.
Speaker A:We need to have a, we need to have a serious and honest chat about Russell Westbrook.
Speaker A:Sure, it's a team sport, but it's a bit concerning that OKC didn't win a playoff series for seven years straight.
Speaker A:Okay, fine.
Speaker A:But yeah, the future is bright here.
Speaker A:SG is going to get better.
Speaker A:Chet is going to get better.
Speaker A:Williams is going to get better.
Speaker A:Lou Dort is going to be a defensive player of the year one day.
Speaker A:What then?
Speaker A:Dag not is going to keep coaching.
Speaker A:Sam Presti is going to keep cooking.
Speaker A:The OKC fan base is as crazy as it's ever been.
Speaker A: Shout out OKC: Speaker A: The: Speaker A:Kevin Durant.
Speaker A:Kevin Durant.
Speaker A:The Phoenix Suns have sent Kevin Durant and our shame.
Speaker A:He was untouchable.
Speaker A:He really was untouchable.
Speaker A:Jalen Green was untouchable until he dropped 8 points, 8 point, 7 points, 6 points, 8 points, 30 points, 8 points.
Speaker A:In the playoffs.
Speaker A:In the playoffs.
Speaker A:So he was gone.
Speaker A:He was.
Speaker A:The future of that franchise was supposed to be the future of their franchise.
Speaker A:Wasn't Jalen Green like a number two, number three pick?
Speaker A:Well, he's gone now two, three years later as well.
Speaker A:He's gone because of his inconsistency.
Speaker A:He would.
Speaker A:That's the one chat we always had about Jaylen Green.
Speaker A:However, the Phoenix Suns are sending Kevin Durant for Jaylen to Houston.
Speaker A:By the way, in case you didn't get it, to Houston for Jalen Green, Dylan brooks, the number 10 pick in this year's draft and five second round picks.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:They done sold the farm, eh.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker A:Don't get me wrong, I love Kevin Durant, but you traded Dylan Brooks who was one of the glue guys on your team, right?
Speaker A:And one of your anchors on defense.
Speaker A:Jalen Green, a very bright prospect who was very inconsistent but very a very bright concert prospect nonetheless.
Speaker A:Number 10 pick in this year's draft and five second round picks for 37 year old Kevin Durant.
Speaker A:So clearly they want to win now.
Speaker A:And don't get me wrong, the the pairing of Kevin Durant and Amen Thompson.
Speaker A:I love Kevin Durant.
Speaker A:Being coached by IMO Doka I love but that's as good as it gets.
Speaker A:I don't know how much noise this is gonna make in the West.
Speaker A:They finished third in the west last year, 50 plus wins.
Speaker A:Rockets were a good team, but I don't know how much this moves the needle is what I'm saying.
Speaker A:We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker A:Shout out Kevin Durant.
Speaker A:We knew that Phoenix had to get rid of him.
Speaker A:That's the only way that we're gonna get better as a team.
Speaker A:Especially when you consider the fact that Bradley Beal ain't didn't want to get traded.
Speaker A:Which by the way, once again, where's your pride, bro?
Speaker A:Where's your pride?
Speaker A:We know you have a no trade policy, but like, we know you have a no trade clause, but like you know they're actively trying to get rid of you.
Speaker A:They're actively trying to get rid of you.
Speaker A:How?
Speaker A:You know how when, when girls say you're not hard, I'm not hard to gear.
Speaker A:You're just hard to get rid of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, you never heard that?
Speaker A:She's not hard to get.
Speaker A:You just hard to get rid of.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Free game by the way.
Speaker A:Free game.
Speaker A:So yes, let's get violent, please, let's get violent.
Speaker A:Khalil Roundtree came back and had a good fight after what was the ass whooping of his life, which was still a great fight by the way.
Speaker A:He, he, he fought well against Pereira.
Speaker A:But that fourth round, hey, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
Speaker A:But he came back and he, he beat Jamal Hill by unanimous decision.
Speaker A:And this was a great fight.
Speaker A:This probably his best, his best win thus far.
Speaker A:I don't know where the future is for, for him now because he could just keep fighting.
Speaker A:I don't know if magomed is the next step.
Speaker A:I think him and Pereira can run it back, but I don't know if I want to see that, because we all know how that's going to go down.
Speaker A:So we will see.
Speaker A:We will see.
Speaker A:He's beaten damn near everyone now as well.
Speaker A:So, yeah, we shall see how far he goes.
Speaker A:Shout out Khalil Roundtree.
Speaker A:But that is not what I want to talk about.
Speaker A:That is not what I want to talk about.
Speaker A: So in: Speaker A:The most famous duck is no longer named Donald.
Speaker A:It's called Jon Jones.
Speaker A:Called Jon Jones.
Speaker A:He's called Jon Jones.
Speaker A:So Jon Jones has retired.
Speaker A:I don't even know, like, I want to be happy because he's the goat.
Speaker A:And when goats retire, you should be jovial, you know, shout out to the goat.
Speaker A:Great career, but we wanted the fight.
Speaker A:You teased the fight.
Speaker A:You were supposed to have the fight.
Speaker A:Shout out Tom Aspinall.
Speaker A:He is now the actual undisputed heavyweight champion of the ufc.
Speaker A:And I cannot wait to see what he does for this division, because this division has been a mess since Nganu left.
Speaker A:It's been up and down, up and down.
Speaker A:So now I'm happy there's an actual champion who's going to fight.
Speaker A:He's young, he's going to fight, and he.
Speaker A:That's all he wants, right?
Speaker A:All the frustration with him, all the frustration that he's had was the same frustration that we had.
Speaker A:Just fight.
Speaker A:Just fight.
Speaker A:Even when he wanted to fight Jon Jones, there's this great interview between him and Pierce Morgan where Pierce Morgan asks him, so if you beat Jon Jones, will that make you the Goat?
Speaker A:Because you beat the Goat.
Speaker A:And he said, no, that would just make me the best heavyweight right now.
Speaker A:And that's all I want.
Speaker A:I just want to know that I'm the best heavyweight in the world.
Speaker A:As it stands, he said it on multiple occasions that his resume doesn't match up to Jon Jones, his legacy doesn't match up to Jon Jones, but he's younger, bigger and stronger.
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker A:He knows he's gonna serve hands.
Speaker A:And he said it himself, I will retire Jon Jones without even fighting him.
Speaker A:And he did just that.
Speaker A:I will talk about Jon Jones on another day when I'm not very emotional about this topic, because it does make me emotional.
Speaker A:Pisses me off, actually.
Speaker A:Shout out Jon Jones, the goat.
Speaker A:He retired.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:That's all you get.
Speaker A:Just a.
Speaker A:What you got for me, bro?
Speaker B:John Bones, Stones, whatever they call them.
Speaker B:What do they call them?
Speaker A:Johnny Bones.
Speaker B:Johnny Bones.
Speaker B:The greatest ducker since Floyd Money Mayweather.
Speaker B:Oh, my.
Speaker B:All Right.
Speaker B:So well done on Episode number 38.
Speaker B:38.
Speaker A:38.
Speaker B:Well done, well done, well done, well done.
Speaker B:You're more consistent than Tyrese Halpert, I'm gonna tell you that now.
Speaker A:No, Jalen Green.
Speaker A:I'm more consistent than Jalen Green.
Speaker B:Yeah, him too.
Speaker B:You have to.
Speaker B:When else you drop four points?
Speaker B:Hell, no.
Speaker A:Hell, hell, not me.
Speaker A:Never.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So NBA season is done, and we were both wrong.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And we were both completely wrong.
Speaker A:I said Cleveland.
Speaker B:I had.
Speaker B:I had Jokic.
Speaker B:Because I like narratives.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker B:No, I just like narratives.
Speaker B:I like narratives.
Speaker A:I like.
Speaker B:I don't have a horse in any.
Speaker B:In this race whatsoever.
Speaker B:I don't care about OKC, KFC, UFC, Lakers and 5.
Speaker B:They lied about that, too.
Speaker B:They lied about.
Speaker B:They lied about the boogeyman.
Speaker B:Cleveland was the boogeyman.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Boston was supposed to repeat.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I said Boston was supposed to at least get to the conference finals.
Speaker B:The Lakers were supposed to make a deep run.
Speaker B:They were supposed to make a deep run.
Speaker B:Who you gonna put on Yorkic?
Speaker B:Lou.it don't matter.
Speaker B:Lou dot.
Speaker B:High court, divorce court, Lakers of five.
Speaker B:They went home in five.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:There was the wrong five.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So the Finals, it was expected.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:But still heartbreaking.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Because this year had seemed to be the year of the underdog in.
Speaker B:Across all the other sports.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Football, well, for your benefit, soccer, the NFL.
Speaker A:You know, the Eagles weren't the underdog.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker A:The Eagles were not the underdog.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:They weren't the other dog.
Speaker A:But they were going against the dynasty.
Speaker A:The dynasty that is The Chiefs.
Speaker A:I get it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're going at the Chief.
Speaker B:And Pat Mahomes was supposed to 3p.
Speaker B:It didn't happen.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:So my question for the Finals, we expected it, but would it have been better for the NBA if the Pacers won and had Tyler's.
Speaker B:Hallie Burton, Mr.
Speaker B:Hurting right now, sat down and just not played.
Speaker B:Would it have made the chances better.
Speaker A:Or worse if he sat down?
Speaker A:Would have been OKC in six.
Speaker B:I'm talking about this fight, this last game.
Speaker A:You're talking about game seven?
Speaker B:Yeah, game seven.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't think it.
Speaker A:I think it would have gone even worse.
Speaker A:I think would have been a proper blowout.
Speaker A:I think him being on the court, starting the game and actually shooting well at the start of the game before he went down energized his team.
Speaker A:And now him going down also just has his boys ready to fight for him, you know, just galvanize them in a different type of way.
Speaker A:Like, yo, let's do this for Tai.
Speaker A:So I think him sitting would have done more harm than good, which I don't really think matters, because at the end of the day, the actual harm is the fact that he now tore his Achilles.
Speaker A:They would have lost regardless.
Speaker B:Had it been 100% healthy.
Speaker B:Do they win?
Speaker A:No, they stand.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They.
Speaker A:They put up a fighting chance, but they still don't win.
Speaker A:I said this a long time ago.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:As soon as the second round hit.
Speaker A:And it was just the Knicks.
Speaker A:It was the Knicks.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The Celtics.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:It was the Knicks, actually, when the conference finals.
Speaker A:Yes, the Knicks and the Pacers.
Speaker A:Now I'm trying to remember.
Speaker A:The Knicks were playing in the conference finals in the second round.
Speaker A:Who did they play?
Speaker A:I have no idea who the Knicks played in the second.
Speaker B:Weren't they playing Boston?
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:What did they play in the first round?
Speaker B:I can't remember the play the first round.
Speaker B:I know there was Boston next.
Speaker A:Yeah, they played.
Speaker A:They played Boston in the second round.
Speaker A:Okay, fine.
Speaker A:But yeah, as soon as those teams are left, I was like, none of these teams can stand a chance against okc.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it was Chai there.
Speaker B:All right, so then it's done.
Speaker A:A chance.
Speaker B:Okay, right.
Speaker B:So now Mr.
Speaker B:Shay, Gil Alexander, he's Mr.
Speaker B:Okc.
Speaker B:Mr.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's Mr.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Finishing.
Speaker B:Oh, not even.
Speaker A:No, no, no.
Speaker A:Triple doubles are not enough.
Speaker A:He's is.
Speaker B:So if you were Kevin Durant, James Harden and Russ, how would you feel right now?
Speaker A:I mean, you can't really hate.
Speaker A:It's the way of the game.
Speaker A:Even you have to accept the fact that you did not bring a championship to the city and he did.
Speaker A:No matter how long you played there, no matter how great you are, you never brought a championship.
Speaker A:And once again, you went against the heels and you lost against the heels, fine.
Speaker A:But you still lost.
Speaker A:Same way had they lost.
Speaker A:Now where we gonna.
Speaker A:And we were calling seamless.
Speaker A:We're saying, ah, Shea is not Mr.
Speaker A:OKC anymore.
Speaker A:Why?
Speaker A:Because, fine, he hasn't done enough.
Speaker A:Now they've all brought MVPs, but he hasn't done enough.
Speaker A:Russ has brought.
Speaker A:Russ brought a culture to okc.
Speaker A:KD was just a great player you give me.
Speaker A:But now it's Chai.
Speaker A:Now it's.
Speaker A:Now there's no debate.
Speaker A:There's.
Speaker A:There's this hardware in the cupboard.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's not Chai's.
Speaker B:Chai.
Speaker B:I am personally disappointed I didn't get to see Tom Aspinall, Jon Jones fight me too, because I think what goats do is they leave room for no debate.
Speaker B:Like you were talking about knocking people out and getting points.
Speaker B:So this Jon Jones getting his points.
Speaker A:This is Jon Jones saying, I'm retiring a champion and I'm leaving.
Speaker A:Because he has said it multiple times, he's not looking for this type of fight.
Speaker A:He's looking for more of a legacy fight against an already established fighter or a legend type fighter.
Speaker A:And what we've all said was this dude is the interim champion of the division, the number one contender.
Speaker A:There's no better, no bigger fight than that one.
Speaker A:Clearly he didn't see it that way.
Speaker B:Well, when you're a goat, I guess you can duck.
Speaker A:Are you done?
Speaker A:Are you done?
Speaker A:Pick one.
Speaker B:Who's winning the chip next year?
Speaker A:No, actually, no.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker A:Cleveland.
Speaker A:Let me see how the draft goes.
Speaker A:How about that?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:How?
Speaker B:Give me an answer.
Speaker A:Okay, fine.
Speaker A:For now, say Cleveland.
Speaker A:Based on what I've seen.
Speaker B:Anka.
Speaker B:All right, all right.
Speaker B:Bet.
Speaker A:Bet.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Episode 38, done dusted.
Speaker A:Shout out OkC.
Speaker A:Shout out Indiana.
Speaker A:Shout out Tom Aspinall.
Speaker A:Jon Jones.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And this has been episode 38.
Speaker A: I will see you episode: Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Until then, go out there, watch sports, be nice to your mother, and as always, enjoy the violence.
Speaker A:Of course they do it.
